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 Post subject: Guarded and Shielded
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:20 am 
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I look at these and they seem the same thing. Squad commanders have guarded and to use it you must be part of a squad and thus can't transfer the wound from a non-squad model.

Shielded seems the same exact things, but is the intent to be a special skill for a commander that functions like Guarded but for a model NOT part of a squad (thus any friendly model of force) may have a wound effect transferred to by the commander.

Seems like a clarification is needed.


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 Post subject: Re: Guarded and Shielded
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:48 am 
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Horned God wrote:
I look at these and they seem the same thing. Squad commanders have guarded and to use it you must be part of a squad and thus can't transfer the wound from a non-squad model.

Shielded seems the same exact things, but is the intent to be a special skill for a commander that functions like Guarded but for a model NOT part of a squad (thus any friendly model of force) may have a wound effect transferred to by the commander.

Seems like a clarification is needed.

Why is clarification needed? Your post indicates that you understand how both skills work [you only forgot to add that models with these rules cannot be used to Shield/Guard].


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 Post subject: Re: Guarded and Shielded
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:14 pm 
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Why? Because it is not worded like that in the book. They read the same way. Guarded should read 'any model within 2" within the same unit' and Shielded 'any model within 2".


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 Post subject: Re: Guarded and Shielded
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:28 pm 
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Guarded wrote:
If the Guarded Model receives a Wound Effect from a Ranged Attack, another Model without the Guarded Special Skill in the Squad within 2” of the Guarded Model may be nominated to receive the Wound Effect


Shielded wrote:
If the Shielded Model receives a Wound Effect from a Ranged Attack, another Model without the Shielded or Guarded Special Skill within 2” of the Shielded Model may be nominated to receive the Wound Effect


I really don't see the need for a clarification.


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 Post subject: Re: Guarded and Shielded
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:35 pm 
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The intent is clear no need for clarification.


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 Post subject: Re: Guarded and Shielded
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:31 am 
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Ok then.
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‘Wound Effect’ – The Wound Effect is an abstract term which combines two processes; hitting and wounding a Model.

When we redirect hit on another model.
1. When Warlord/Lord take hit? (Hit process)
2. Or when Warlord/Lord take hit AND fali armour test? (Wound process)

You know. You have Rist Warlord with Oblati, in first case they is easlier to kill, in secondary case is like they have 18 Armour.

If guarded/shilded dont need clarification, then wound effect term need it ;)
In book is not clarificated wich of two combined proces fired guarded/shielded skill.


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