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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:18 pm 
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I think Anabolic steroids are the perfect example of the kind of chemicals we are talking about here, if you took out concern for the person's welfare and existed in an environment that had no issues with human experimentation, you might see further advances in this area. Certainly there's plenty of examples of the kind of ridiculous pain tolerance a person can have when taking a variety of illegal drugs that exist on the market today.

I've never used steroids but have taken a number of supplements on the market and some resulted in huge boosts to muscle mass growth.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:44 am 
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But isn't anabolic steroids is an artificial version of a naturally preexisting hormone? And again it needs to be taken regularly or the effects will start to wear of, sure with rigid training you may keep a lot of it but it's not exactly that chemicals make you superhuman, it's a signal substance that allows you to give you body another set of orders but it still performs functions that it was designed to do, just under other circumstances.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:05 pm 
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Steroids are a good example IMO, especially if combined with stimulants or alterations that would cause adrenaline and other natural stimulants being produced and released more (or on will). That's actually not so rare in cyberpunk fiction.

By the way, don't forget about the way Tekrons create Razides or Golems (cloning huge muscled guys out of... basically nothing), it's just the way this crazy setting works. There's really nothing realistic or hard-scifi about Mutant Chronicles, it's all about style.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:38 pm 
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Yeah but the legion is the legion and vat grown beings is far from impossible just beyond our current science. Cybertronic and the other factions, perhaps cybertronic even more than the other factions, need to be somewhat believable to work.

And any alterations that would cause adrenaline and other stimulants to be released more would require the genetic code to be rewritten and thus be genetic engineering not chemistry. Again I have no problem with the universe at large not seeing the difference but cybertronic would. Sure they could use chemiman as a brand name but they themselves would have a technical name for them.

and genetic engineering is more advanced than nanotechnology not less so, the point of nanotechnology is to perform functions we don't yet know how to make the body do on it's own.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:05 am 
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TheDungen wrote:
And any alterations that would cause adrenaline and other stimulants to be released more would require the genetic code to be rewritten and thus be genetic engineering not chemistry. Again I have no problem with the universe at large not seeing the difference but cybertronic would. Sure they could use chemiman as a brand name but they themselves would have a technical name for them.


I'm not a pharmacology major but just using your example of adrenaline there's no need to rewrite genetic code - you just inject it into the person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epinephrine


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:39 pm 
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Yes and then it'll run out we were talking of making the body produce more of it itself so that no further injections was needed.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:57 pm 
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On the topic of nanotechnology use in Cybertronic - I just noticed that there is a card named Nanobot Release between Commander Diana's cards. So I guess this is a word of God confirming that nanobots are real thing in Cybertronic. Wonder if it is a retcon or not.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:32 am 
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You mean a change, a retcon is a retroactive continuity fix, that means going back in a written story and changing the events.

Adding nanites isn't a retcon, going back and rewriting an important event to be affected by the existence of nanites is.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:39 am 
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And yet again I disagree, The Dungen. :lol: If the setting didn't have nanotechnology and suddenly it is there and always have been, it is a retcon.

wikipedia wrote:
Retroactive continuity, or retcon for short, is the alteration of previously established facts in the continuity of a fictional work. ...
... Science fiction writers are occasionally confronted with new scientific developments which disprove assumptions made in a previous story or book. For some of these cases, no amount of retconning could "save" a story – for example, many early works of science fiction assumed that Venus was a watery planet – but in many other cases, clever retconning allows the story to retain scientific plausibility under the new conditions.


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