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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:40 pm 
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Hey guys, this was posted over on Facebook and as a volunteer moderator, I thought I would post it here. So this is from Jarek, not me.



Hi there, end of year update.
Prodos Games team would like to with you a Happy New Year 2016.

Really sorry for long update.

Shipping:

3 months ago we have set up a "saving" account to secure cash for shipping 2nd and 3rd wave of AvP. We have some really exciting news. Our sales team has really done an extremely good on sales of Prodos games products and casting services in the past 3 months and we have secured 42K+ GBP for Wave shipping (see attached picture). This only means that we have in plans to ship out ALL KS items by end of January. We will also set up an email account for queries regarding only the KS - KS@prodosgames.com, this email will be active from mid February. IF you have not received your rewards by END February please contact us immediately on the email above.

A small BUG.

We have found a small issue with pledge manager.. The pledge manager was linked to our online shop and run on the same platform, if a KS backer have made any purchase in our shop (Warzone for instance) the PM in some cases marked off KS pledge as shipped and shop purchase tracking number was recorded in KS box as well. This have been now resolved. However if you plan to make any purchases in our shop or you have done it in last week or so please emial us on service@prodos.co.uk, we will check every individual case. I hope my words wont get twisted around, but so security (to make sure that we can actually provide you with KS tracking number) if you made any purchase in our shop and if you have not shipped your KS rewards, we will have to do it in one parcel with one tracking number (shop order + KS rewards). At this stage this is the only solution without interfering into source code of PM... the last thing we need at this stage is total fallout with PM.

Prodos Games LTD

Last year for Prodos was like a ride on roller coaster. Although, we are ashamed of decisions we have made, like getting retail out and so on (to some degree we had no option anyway) in a long run our it shows that the decisions we have made secured KS and Prodos Games future.

Prodos Games in now 30 employees we are providing services for many companies, some of you may even have models made by us not even knowing that Prodos was the manufacturer, 12 KS run by other companies went through our hands, either in the form of 3D sculpting, 3d Printing or casting. In last 6 months (we track numbers for last 6 months only) we have made 109237 sprues of miniatures for external customers! That's 100k sprues!

We totally understand that for many of you Prodos is the worse company that you could have a pleasure to deal with, frankly, a lot, and I mean a lot of delays where due to lack of our experience with the big boys and 3rd party delays that affect us personally and Prodos.

What we can assure that the product you will receive is the top quality in terms of casting as well as design- we are a bunch of engineers and the quality for us is the top goal.

I said many times that for us AvP KS was like an open wound, that was bleeding out us slowly, and only what we could do last year was to put some plasters to reduce the bleeding... now, we are in the stage of stitches that stop the bleeding however we are aware that AVP KS scar will stay for ever on Prodos Games face.
The root cause of all issues was the decision to go KS with this project. Looking back we should get it out slowly, starting with a board game and then add more.. but, we have a new future, a KS free future, this decision for us, in a long term, I believe is the best decision we could make. We know, for fact, how difficult is to run a KS, we know how many companies must go from KS to KS to fulfil previous commitments and we know how many companies are struggling because we have been helping them out.
So no-KS projects are the future for us.

New NO-KS Projects.

We are happy to announced that in February we are releasing a new line of miniatures called Space Crusaders. We have already 60 models designed, cast and all going through painting at this stage, this will follow with Space Crusade Board Game mid year... and the range of the models will be increased to 120 by the end of 2016. Sign up for a newsletter in our shop for more information if you are interested.

In May+, Prodos is releasing Warzone 2.0 and new faction Illian. Some really new innovative Wargaming solutions will be put in place.

June/July is a new add to AvP Board Game (stand alone game + expansion to the current game, with additional rules) and focus will be put on war-gaming side of the AvP (more models)

AvP range also will expand. We have in plans to get out another 15 types of models, 5 for each faction! (collecting references). And if plastic work out for us we will have as well Dropship as well.

Hope that one day we can forget the issues we have been going through with AvP KS and Prodos will become your favourite company. We will work very very hard to regain your trust and KS backers will always have a spot in our hart regardless of personal attack or other issues.
As long as Prodos exist we are ready to give you, from mid year once the facility is developed, a lifetime 5% off on our products sold via Prodos Games webstore.

Thanks and once again a happy New Year 2016.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:27 pm 
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You know what would be more helpful than a redacted bank statement? Detail on how many KS have been shipped and to where, how many remain to be shipped and when they expect to finally make good on the KS (beyond 'end of January' when that target slips).


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:32 pm 
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seems you have won a battle, but continue to lose the war...

further to the comment above, i think a picture of products being packed by everyone in the picture and being made ready to send to the KS backers would have gone down better than one showing everyone sitting down eating, drinking and smiling (mostly!)

5% is good, but most gaming stores offer 10 or even 20% off products, as do some gaming companies when buying direct, so whilst 5% is appreciated it may still not be enough to placate and heal those wounds.

maybe 5% on non AvP would be ok but more for those KS backers of AvP until they reach a certain set limit would help ease the pain

now that the new date has been mentioned, i assume all those still waiting will be anxiously ticking off the days on their Prodos Advent(ure) Calendar to see if their belated prezzies arrive with them...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:15 pm 
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Whoa, there! Did I read that right? They're trying to placate us with a 5% discount through a limited time to make for for literal YEARS of stringing everyone along?

Less pictures of everyone on break and more thinking about how to fix the current problem. Don't get me started on the idea of adding new crap to the line that you can't even produce and ship correctly!

And I thought EA was an awful gaming company. At least you can get what you paid for with them, however awful that may be.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:12 pm 
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Well, if its any consolation the retail packaging of all the new stuff looks quite nice, in fact I'll wager it cost a pretty penny to produce, I would take a rough guess of, oh, I don't know, about £42406.20?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:13 pm 
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We are happy to announced that in February we are releasing a new line of miniatures called Space Crusaders. We have already 60 models designed, cast and all going through painting at this stage, this will follow with Space Crusade Board Game mid year... and the range of the models will be increased to 120 by the end of 2016. Sign up for a newsletter in our shop for more information if you are interested.


Hello, my name is Zaid and Space Crusade / Crusaders is what's brought me here to your lovely forum. ...unfortunately I'm confused and don't quite see where I should be posting about Space Crusade on your lovely forum. Hopefully someone can give me a little guidance soon but until then I guess this counts as my 'Hi, I'm me!" post.

Hope to engage you all more and soon.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:20 am 
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It's in the under-boob section.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:20 am 
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in my opinion, Prodos should not be releasing new games until they sort everyone out with what they are owed on the AvP stuff

the money invested in this should have gone on AvP games and the add-ons being sorted

bad form Prodos... very bad form!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:48 am 
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Prodos was forced to start distribution of the game in shops in order to maintain a financial balance.

Did you prefer to see Prodos failure? All your money AND game lost forever?

Does someone know the Hero Quest 25th anniversary kickstarter problems? Paolo Parente's Dust kickstarter project? Delays are normality when we talk about KS.

Prodos is doing what is possible to ship all orders and it will do that.


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